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Dr. AHMED: You are absolutely right Diane. He is not a good leader, or a good Muslim leader, I accept that as such. But remember that for the man in the street there is so many unresolved issues that lie heavy with them, and also that what is coming from the United States of America over the last few months -- the attacks on the Prophet of Islam, the attacks on the Koran, the attacks on Islam are being perceived by many ordinary people as attacks on Islam, which is marginalizing the moderates, which is silencing the moderates, and very often endangering their lives.

Rabbi JACK MOLINE: American Jews often feel the same way about Israel. Even those who disagree with the policies of a particular government will very much rise to Israel's defense when perceived as being attacked. Is there any way you can see where that connection between faith and political pride can be broken?

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Dr. AHMED: I hear about this Diane, people keep saying, "Why aren't the moderates speaking up?" The fact is they are speaking up, but as you said, they need to be heard. I myself have been to the Episcopal Church, I am going again to Bishop John Chane's organization, I am going to the Washington Hebrew Congregation shortly. So, there is that element of dialogue, but it needs to be, as you say, much more vigorous.

Rabbi MOLINE: But I understand the fear. Even the American Jews, who are probably more secure in the United States than anywhere but Israel -- maybe even more so -- are now hearing rumblings about their dual loyalties and concerns, even in the halls of Congress, that the Jews may be responsible for the war. So, I understand the fear of American Muslims in feeling that way as well.

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